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Dec 19, 2021

Before the next season starts, the siblings present a bonus chat to get things rolling: What they’ve been reading, watching, thinking about … Talking their way through the cognitive reframing of Christmas traditions outside of religion, and a preview what’s ahead in Season 4!


Alan Watts 'The Book' -

May 23, 2021

In this special episode, the siblings ask each other a series of questions about their lives, their Mormon upbringing, and their self-reflection that they don't already know the answers to.

From 'Who is your favorite comedian' to 'Have you ever contemplated suicide?' - there's introspection, revelation, and laughs!


May 12, 2021

In this bonus episode - after the discussion of 'A New Earth' and its concepts Lisa has some questions about attention, perception, emotional responses, acceptance, and making 'right' choices.


Nov 29, 2020

The siblings check in to share what they are grateful for, some very nice messages sent in by listeners, thoughts on the election, the NXIVM cult documentary series 'The Vow', fear of strangers, and the progress Lisa has made in her existential crisis by decreasing anger, increasing acceptance, and 'choosing new...

Oct 18, 2020

The siblings discuss their reading of 'The Denial of Death' by Ernest Becker; how it contradicts their old Mormon understanding of an eternal self and how it informs the realistic understanding of the immediate, natural, fearful, fascinating, transient life in a human body.

'This is the terror: to have emerged from...